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Love these Better Sweaters. This is my second. It's warm and comfy. The dark blue color is a true one. The sleeves are long enough for me (16 X 35 shirt size). The length in the body goes past my hips. Patagonia has kept sizes consistent in this product over the years which is excellent. (Other products from Patagonia have wildly varying sizin... Read Moreg depending on years of manufacture.)
Terrible! Think Twice Before Purchasing.
I have owned 33 pieces of Patagonia since 1988 and have always been a fan and great ambassador to the brand until now. This item is the WORST Patagonia I have ever produced. Purchased in January of 2021. First, the jacket is NOT warm at all. A slight breeze goes right through it. Unfortunately, it makes for an ok, just an ok indoor jacket. Not my i... Read Morententions of using and purchasing this item. Secondly, the material just seems cheap! The interior lining is very thin and the exterior just seems weak. Also, attracts every piece of animal fur and lint like a magnet. Thirdly, the zippers do not have the additional "zipper pull" tabs as Patagonia was always good for. This makes finding pocket zippers very difficult! Patagonia was ALWAYS good at providing these until now. Terrible way to save a few cents Patagonia. Forth, the sleeve cuffs always bend back and are not holding their shape and are loose. Not something I ever experienced from previous Patagonia items. Am I being picky? Maybe, but I have come to expect great products from Patagonia and this falls VERY short. Patagonia, PLEASE do not go the way of other manufactures and "cheapen" your items!
Hello Scott, thank you for sharing your detailed review with us. Your feedback has been passed along to our Design and Product Teams. Please feel free to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) your jacket if you were looking to do so, but haven't already.
Needed a nice fleece jacket
I'm 6'1, and about 225. So it runs true to size. It's not loose fitting and if you want that pending your size I'd go up but it fits great for me with either a dress shirt or something light underneath. Got this for everyday use as well as going out as it looks amazing and hiking as it gets colder of needed.
I am kind of disappointed, they sizing is not good.
So I originally ordered a large. Using the size guide, I thought that this would be the best option for me. However, when I got the jacket it was super tight in the shoulders and did not really fit me properly, it felt tight in all of the wrong places. I then was able to do an exchange for an extra-large, which customer service was amazing about. T... Read Morehough, when I received the jacket it was literally way too big. The sleeves were too long and it looked like I was wearing a dress...so now I am just stuck with an oversized jacket that I will never wear.
Hi Hunter, thank you for taking the time to write a review for us. We're really sorry to hear the the XL didn't work out either and we completely understand the disappointment. With that said, you are welcome to return it to us. We've reached out to you directly with further assistance!
warm and comfortable sweater jacket
Patagonia's sweater jackets are warmer than other brands in the market, made with excellent zippers which you do not need to fight to engage and fit snuggle around the waist, wrist and neck when it warrants snugness. They are not inexpensive but made well for long lasting.
My new favorite
This is actually my second review of this jacket. So far it has performed better than I ever could have dreamed. I throw it on for any setting where I want to be comfortable and classy. If you want a sweater that feels like a jacket this is for you! With that being said I do have one suggestion for the Patagonia design so listen up guys and gals! P... Read Morelease, please, please put the chest pocket on the inside. It would make the jack look even more clean. Also, drop the size of the left inside drop pocket to that of the current right one. At the very least add a zipper garage for the current chest pocket. I would recommend this to just about anyone. Also note that while this jacket is best suited for casual use it can be use for some more demanding things. I have already hit mtb jump lines and hiked in this thing with no complaints. It is surprisingly hardy!
A Wardrobe Staple
My husband now has 3 of these sweaters. I have 2. We both use them all the time. They are warm as a light "jacket", but also layer well. Great for An upgraded sweatshirt alternative, but the same comfort. Great for travel. Just the right multi purpose item! Wears like iron and machine washes and dries perfectly. Highly recommend!
Looks good, warm but ages really poorly.
Love my other Patagonia gear except this one. I've purchased a few for gifts but I'm disappointed in my own and how poorly it has aged. I've had it for less than a year and it develops a lot of pilling. Great otherwise. It's warm, looks good and well priced but it just looks bad after a few months of heavy use.
Hi Ricardo, we are sorry your Better Sweater has begun to pill. Pilling can be inevitable with knit garments as it is the nature of those fibers. With that being said, there are various products that can remove the pilling so your jacket can look good as new! We recommend using a Sweater Stone or fabric shaver to remove pilling. To prevent pilling in the future, try washing it either by hand in cool to cold water, or separately in your washing machine on the gentle cycle. It's best to lay it flat to dry rather than place it in the dryer where the fabric can easily get upbraided. Of course, if you are not satisfied with your purchase, you may send it in for a warranty evaluation. Just give us a [call or chat in](https://help.patagonia.com/s/) so we can set that up for you.
why the pilling problem
nice jacket but the fabric will definitely 'pill'
Hello Gary, thanks for your review! Unfortunately, all fleeces have a tendency to pill. We recommend washing your fleeces by hand in cool-cold water or separately in your washing machine on the gentle cycle. It's best to lay it flat to dry rather than place it in the dryer. To remove pilling that has already occurred, a sweater shaver or sweater stone is an excellent tool and can help it look brand new again. Of course, you are absolutely welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) it under warranty if needed.
Well Made and Super Warm
This is a toasty warm zip up for both indoor and outdoor. Zippered pockets provide a secure place for valuables. Patagonia not only makes high quality products but is a customer oriented company. I received an apology from them due to not having a jacket in the color I ordered. I highly recommend Patagonia!
Very happy with quality. Only gripe is that the Medium runs small and the large is more accurate. The medium was small and uncomfortable across the chest. Im 59 155 lb. I exchanged for large, which is bigger than what I prefer (sleeve and body length for example). But I kept. Mediums should be made a bit fuller.
This is one of my favorite sweaters and I have a bunch of Patagonia's. I'm 170, 5' 11" with a 41" chest and a size Medium fits perfect. One thing I really like is the high collar that fits well and is not loose around my neck. It is perfect to layer underneath a jacket/ windbreaker .
Oddly right, but seems comfy
The fit seems off. Tighter than even a slim fit shirt in my normal size. Could barely fit my sleeveless as through the sleeves. Seems an absolute requirement to size up if you are not very skinny or if you want to wear more than a t-shirt underneath. Quality doesn't seem quite on par with the cost and the mystique. I'll look for a differe... Read Morent sturdy fleece jacket.
Great All Around Jacket
I purchased this in Log Brown after scouring the reviews for a quality durable Spring and Fall sweater. It is very soft and has a classic look that you can wear to the office or out for a hike. The fit is true to size (for reference Im 5-6 tall, weigh 170 lbs., 39 chest, 32/33 sleeve, 32 waist), the only area that fits a little snug is the sleeve o... Read Moren my forearm. It is a warm and light sweater to use stand alone or as a mid layer. Zipper quality is very good with smooth operation. Too soon for me to tell on the durability, but very happy with the product.
The better sweater is truly that, a better sweater. It provides good warmth and where as well. The fabric is thick and rich and feels great on your skin. I recently purchased the dark brown and absolutely love the color of the fabric. I own a number of better sweaters and I plan to keep buying them in the future, theyre great!
while much of the Patagonia line has seemed to suffer reduction in general quality / durability the better sweater fleece pieces are still dependable layers
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great for women too
The BSJ is my staple clothing item in the winter. Having both women's & men's version of the BSJ, I actually prefer the men's version because the arms are more relaxed where it joins the shoulders. I have read other women complaining about the women's version because of this, so I invite them to try the men's version. S... Read Moreure, the silhouette is not hourglass-y, but so what? I think this current version is a little longer so with my hips being more flared than a man's & having a shorter torso, the bottom of the jacket "grabs" at my hips whereas the torso is looser. Fortunately, I'm still trim enough that the sweater bottom doesn't bunch up around my waist. The other bonus to purchasing the men's version are the better color options like the olives, rusts, & browns.
2 bad jackets
I received a green version of this jacket for Christmas. I enjoyed it until I pulled it out of the wash with holes in it. I had followed the tags instructions for washing, so I was upset this gift didnt even last a month with how expensive it is. I tried to find an exact replacement, but the color I had was sold out of everywhere I looked. I bought... Read More a second jacket a different color, and the seam on one of the sleeves is very rough and uncomfortable. I used to love these types of jackets as a teenager, but it seems the quality is going down, which is very disappointing
Hi Edward, we're sorry to hear about the untimely wear and tear and disappointment with the Men's Better Sweater Fleece Jacket in general. As always, if you're at all unsatisfied with your gear, your welcome to return or exchange that under our Ironclad Guarantee. You can begin either process here, https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html.
I wear this comfortable sweater over t-shirts, polo style, or button-down shirts nearly every day from October to March with shorts, sweats, jeans, or khakis. I am 6'2" - 250 LB, and the XXL fits perfectly. The only reason I would buy another is to have multiple colors (I have industrial green).
Not great if you arent tall & skinny
This is a cool sweater overall, good workmanship and quality material. However, if you are in the short range and stocky, 5 foot eight & below, the M will have sleeves mid palm on you and the bottom of the shirt will be at your privates and below. Funny thing is I am about the same size as Yvonne Chouinard and very seldom does Patagonia fit me.... Read More Id like to see how he looks in his own product.
Not the Same As the Older Better Sweater
I have owned this Better Sweater jacket for about two months (L Logwood Brown), washed it 2-3 times total and it has pilled incredibly fast. The zipper is also slightly curled and the overall fit feels a lot smaller than my other Better Sweater jacket from 2016, despite being washed with cold water and air dried. Overall I would say the material is... Read More of a lesser quality than previous seasons Better Sweaters. I typically love everything from Patagonia, but this was a disappointment.
Thanks for your feedback. All of our gear is covered by our Ironclad Guarantee and you're welcome to return it for a warranty.
A really good sweater
I actually have bought several of these Better Sweaters over the years, and they have held up well and I pretty much live in them through our five-month winters here in Ithaca, NY. The old ones are still good, but the current crop is appreciably better, and I highly recommend these sweaters. They are warm, sturdy, well-designed, and they look great... Read More in a well-turned out casual sort of way. In fact, I have gotten a couple of Better Sweater vests for fall and spring, and when it gets fairly cold in the house, I put a sweater over a vest over a t-shirt, and I'm as cozy as can be!
Great look, great fit!
Im 61 & 200lbs and i bought the navy blue in an XL. It fits just about perfect. Its not slim fit but its also not baggy around the torso. Theres room to layer another lighter sweater or a flannel underneath without it being too tight or restricting your movements. Looks great and super happy with the purchase!
Warm with great fit!
This was a gift for our son. Usually large jackets are wide but this fits great. Many people need length but not an automatically a wide fit. Thank you for getting it. With so many grey and black jackets the brown is a nice change. This looks great with jeans or dress pants. A nice upgrade to his outerwear collection!!
Best fleece ever
The only reason I had to order a new one is because Patagonia is currently repairing the zipper on my old one. Like 12/13 years old, used for EVERYTHING, worn in every condition throughout the year. I have other specialty fleece for specific usage, but this is the swiss-army-knife of fleece jackets. Period.
It's a better sweater jacket
I chose a size XL and sizing is spot-on. I usually downsize to a large on most Patagonia jackets. I'm 6-0. 205#. My chest measurement is about 23-24 inches across. It fits me perfect and it's not a bulky fleece jacket which is what I'm looking for. So far no complaints.
I love patagonia, but do not give one as a gift
I own 3 patagonia's sweaters and I love them they are the best!!!! Quality speaking cannot be beaten by any brand... With that being said... I purchase a sweater for my husband's bday with a message for him and when I received the package the box said patagonia and the message was printed in the bill, definetly it ruined the surprise!!!!!... Read More! But anyways he loves it and it fits perfectly.
Sorry to hear the surprise was ruined but happy to know the gift was appreciated! We'll make note of this and pass the word along, thanks.
I purchased this sweater for my son for the second time. He has a long walk across the parking lot into work each day, starting at 6:30 am and it gets mighty cold in Idaho. This is his favorite sweater and I hope you keep it in stock because I will probably want to buy it again! Thank you Patagonia.
Pilling Like Crazy
I love these sweaters but man do they pull. You would think for 155 dollars they would figure out a way to not have this be an issue. Other than that it fits great and looks great. I have 3 of these but the black one seems to be the most noticeable with the pilling.
Thanks for writing this review. To remove those pills we've created a handy [video](https://youtu.be/2aFbPb6Rn8o).
High quality warmth but cut is small
I have 3 of the Better Sweater style vests. Love them and wanted one with sleeves. As a larger man I do not like pullovers and wanted the zip up. The quality is just great but I found the Size was not what I thought it should be. The vests are reasonably loose on me allowing thick clothing underneath but the zip up sweater has a body that is too sm... Read Moreall . More importantly are the sleeves which I found to be way too tight. This I assure you was not due to the muscular size of my arms. The sleeves make it hard to get on over layered clothing. Also I would like to see a better, more sweater like cuff on the sleeves. I would not trade the sweater for another brand and love the quality .
This is my first ever purchase from Patagonia. Very well made, paying attention to minute details. Very happy and satisfied. For sure gonna be a returning customer. So glad I bought it. If you want something casual on a pair of jeans, its a no brainer. Just get it. Thank Patagonia for such a quality product.
Fit is off
I find the fit on these jackets to be way off. It is supposed to be a regular fit not a slim fit. Well its the slimmest regular fit ever. I ordered both a M and a L as I often fit in one or the other. I started with the L and it was too small so I didnt even get the M out of the package. I returned both. Im 59, 185.
Hey there, thanks for the review! We're sorry that the sizing felt off for you. If you're interested in a fleece that has more of a relaxed fit, please check out our [Synchilla Snap-T Fleece Pullover](https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-synchilla-snap-t-fleece-pullover/25450.html?dwvar_25450_color=NKNV).
Cant figure out Patagonias sizing
I purchased a Medium, a Large and an Extra Large in the Regular Fit, Better Sweater. None fit me. Im 59, 185 lbs. Obviously not the build of a model, but Im athletic and fly fish over sixty days a year. I have to ask, when you are cutting these size patterns, who are they cut for? Ive made several returns to Patagonia this year as things just dont ... Read Morefit like they did back in the old days. I guess its time to move to another brand and leave Patagonia to the super slim rock climbers and such. Thanks for many years of quality garments!
Hi Scott! We really appreciate you taking the time to write us a review and tell us about the difficulty you've had with sizing. We are very sorry to hear about the trouble you've had, but we always welcome the feedback. It's important to us to hear from our customers so we can improve things for future seasons. We've reached out to you directly to ask for some further detail regarding the fit you experienced.
Daily outfit staple
I live in the Minneapolis area and I wear this every day. When it gets cold inside, this is my go-to for staying warm. For especially cold winter weather, it works as a base layer. I recently went on a mid-October trip to Colorado and this was perfect for hikes in their fall weather. From a style standpoint, it goes with pretty much everything. It&... Read More#x27;s also quite comfortable with warm pockets to keep the hands warm. Couldn't recommend more strongly.
Isn't this year's jackets a tad bigger than last year's??
Size M seems to be a little roomier than last year's product. Also thinner all around, less material used. IDK, just my impression, Your?
Hey there, thanks for the feedback. Note, you can always make an [exchange](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) if it feels like the fit is off. Please reach out to our Customer Service Team if you need help with navigating the process.
Good Looks and Warm
Best looking fleece jacket striking a perfect balance between work and casual situations. I looked through nearly 100 before choosing this one. My body dimensions match size medium dimensions across the size chart. The size medium jacket fits me great which is surprising as I was expecting the waist to be oversized after a previous Patagonia jacket... Read More purchase years back. I heard they adjusted the size of these a bit ago which is good for me considering they don't have an adjustable drawcord hem. The size would allow for a shirt and mid-warmth sweater to be layered underneath. The chest pocket fits a phone, hand pockets are warm. Jacket overall is warm but I wear polos to work so I'd prefer it to be a bit warmer and more wind resistant with perhaps a secondary layer of thin, dense fabric inside. An adjustable hem would probably benefit some people with multi-sized dimensions. New navy is a solid color especially with the heathered look.
Awful fabric is pilling everywhere
I've had the jacket for 10 months now so am able to write with reasonable experience. Within weeks the fabric started pilling at the collar, but now is very unsightly. I am also starting to feel the "nobbly bits". On top of that, the fabric now has evidence of pilling all over, and the more heavily used area such as elbows and forear... Read Morems look worse than the flat parts on the torso (I suspect that's why it started at the collar in the first place as there is constant contact with the wearer's neck). The fit is snug yet comfortable. To put this all into context: I've been a Patagonia customer since 1993, and about 60% of all my shirts & T-Shirts are from them over the years just are a fair few fleeces. For example, my 1995 Synchilla fleece is still going strong with no pilling at all. I'm now going to give this piece of pilling away to charity and will try their new Synchilla jacket in the hope that the fabric isn't as bad.
Even though I haven't had the opportunity to wear this since purchasing it (temps in the 90's) , I do have a quarter zip Better Sweater that i know is very warm and durable. i ordered this an actual size larger than i normally wear, in order to be able to layer under it. I plan on wearing this as my outerlayer this winter, providing it is... Read Moren't raining. always had amazing articles of clothing from Patagonia, and I'm certain this will be the same!
This was my first ever Patagonia product, thought it was worth the money so i gave it a try.... BOY did it send me down an addiction path with this company. This sweater is amazing. Beyond warm, pockets are perfect size, and breast pocket is big enough for all the new cell phones. You can easily double this sweater as a winter coat depending on wea... Read Morether. The zippers were made really well and i enjoy the loop, on the collar, for hanging on clothes hooks. The only bad thing is, that it's so warm, i can't wear it more. 10/10 would recommend to anyone!
I like the sweater. I have several but the zippers are terrible. I have had to replace the zippers on every better sweater I have owned. I go to an alteration place to get a better zipper once these fail.
Hello Terry, we're really sorry to hear that the zippers have been failing. If this becomes a bigger issue down the road, please feel free to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) it under warranty.
Huge fan of Patagonia. But this piece does not live up to Patagonias reputation. The pilling is do bad people ask me whats wrong with my jacket. Tried the recommendation for removing the puffs and pill and in some places it left holes in the jacket. Sad because I have so many pieces from Patagonia that are superior in quality.
Hi Jeff! Thanks so much for leaving your feedback, and we're really sorry to hear about your troubles with removing the pills on your Better Sweater. Please note, your purchase is protected under our Ironclad Guarantee and you are welcome to initiate an online [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) at any time.
Great Daily Kick-around
This is my go-to for something to put on no matter where I'm going. Great fit, soft, subtle color. My only complaint is that the chest pocket zipper is shot and the main zipper is failing. Admittedly, I bought this in 2018, but I don't know how to replace zippers so it might be getting retired soon, unfortunately.
Great Jacket - Too Long for Some Reason
I'm 5'9" and always order large jackets/fleeces, etc. from Patagonia. Until this one, they fit perfectly. This sweater/jacket is unusually long and I can't figure out why. I had to check to make sure I didn't order a tall size but I didn't. It's just longer than normal. Otherwise the product is great. Unfortunatel... Read Morey, I plan to return it.
Fabric needs improvements
I have owned the jacket for five months. I really like the fit and color of the jacket. Unfortunately the outer surface of the fabric is now rough with pills. A soft roughness like an old teddy bear. The arms have deep creases and washing won't remove the creases. Which is strange. Not at all what I was expecting in a Patagonia jacket.
Hey David, thanks for the feedback about the pilling on your jacket. This is something that is unfortunately common, and inevitable, with knit garments due to the nature of those fibers. We recommend using a product like a Sweater Stone to remove pilling, there are many other products and techniques you can use. You are also welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) it to us.
Bought a "Better sweater" in November of 2019. By the end of January 2020 it is pilling badly. And... the thought that I am releasing micro-sized bits of plastic into the environment every time I wash it is unbearable to me now. I veered off the track of natural fibers to purchase this product and really regret it. The pilling is so bad I... Read More can't wear it in front of clients and co-workers anymore, plus I'm polluting the environment every time I wash it. Never again.
Hi Nick, thanks for taking the time to write us a review! We're truly sorry to hear that your Better Sweater has pilled so badly after such little time. To prevent pilling we typically recommend washing the jacket on warm and laying it flat to dry. To remove pilling that has already occurred we suggest using a sweater stone which is a great tool that will help it to look new again. With that said, if this doesn't help you're welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html#searchterm=return).
Great overall but wish arms were longer
I like almost everything about this. It's quite warm, looks good, and is well made. It's geared towards casual, non-active uses since it's pretty heavy and doesn't breath too well. But for static use it's terrific. Just one nit - I'm 6'1", 175 lbs and a medium fits perfect except the sleeves are a bit short.... Read More If I tug on them they'll just barely reach to my wrist, and as soon as I start moving around they start to ride up a few inches on my arm. The large was too baggy for me, so I'm still on the fence about whether to keep it.
I purchased both the Better Sweater jacket and the 1/4 zip version. Both came on time and looked great out of the box. Both are very warm and feel substantial on, without being overly heavy. However, within the first week of owning (and wearing) both, the jacket started to pill like crazy, particularly on the chest and arms. I have tried to attach ... Read Morea picture, but not sure how easy it is to see given the jacket's color. Note that I had just been wearing it as a casual top layer for a couple of days and had not even put it through the wash yet. The really odd thing is that I noticed none of this pilling on the 1/4 zip version, even though I wore them about the same amount. Not too sure what could have accounted for this difference, but I am definitely a little disappointed given the price point and Patagonia's usual reputation for quality.
Hi Jackson! Thanks for your feedback, and we're sorry to hear about the pilling on your Better Sweater. I would recommend using a sweater shaver or sweater stone – these tools will remove the pilling and help your pullover to look brand new again. Of course, you are also welcome to initiate a [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html#searchterm=return) on that item if you’d like.
The *Almost* Perfect Sweater
This thing is awesome! Very comfortable/soft/warm. I’ve wanted one a long time and finally caved and got one after Christmas. I tend to struggle finding the perfect size no matter the kind of clothing, and that happened again here. I wish there were something between the large and medium. Medium fits too tight and a little short, but the sleeves ar... Read Moree just right. Large fits slightly big, a little long, and sleeves are too long and bunch up. Also a lot of material under the arms. I ended up going for the large because it was more comfortable - not a new issue here, being between sizes. It’s a reality I’ve grown used to regardless of the brand. For reference, I’m 6’2” and 170lb with a slim build.
Great Product, however what I noticed with the Better sweater as well as the Better Vest is the chest pocket's develop holes in them. It was easy to repair myself but it was annoying have small items (chapstick) getting stuck in the linings of the sweater. Other than that this is a great product that fits my frame well. Highly Recommend!
I love Patagonia but these sweaters didn't fit right. . I ordered two size L and they were different sizes. The XL wasn't big enough either. I'll return them for a refund. Thank you. Marti Willens
Hi Marti, thanks for taking the time to write us a review! We're really sorry to hear about the trouble you experienced with our sizing. We truly appreciate the feedback as it's crucial to improving products and fit for future seasons.
So warm. So brown.
I am really enjoying the "sweater." It feels a bit more like a jacket though. I am getting a lot of second looks from attractive people who look like they want to get to know me and my sweater jacket better. Sometimes I'll wear it open with no shirt on underneath just to tease the world. Sorry. Not sorry.
Truly the better sweater
Amazing casual or mid layer piece. Very soft and comfortable. Fit is slightly weird as it runs a little boxy in the bottom half but the sleeves are a bit tighter than normal. I fit in a medium pretty well except for the forearms so I went up to a Large and it works pretty well except I feel a litle bulky when it's paired underneath another jac... Read Moreket Very warm sweater for the weight. Pleasantly surprised walking the dog around in the winter with a long sleeve baselayer and this sweater. Personally too warm to wear at the office for extended periods of time but I tend to run hot. Definitely grabbing another of these in a different color. Great sweater!
Better Sweater=Best Sweater
I have several better sweaters, and I absolutely love them. The full-zip provides awesome temp control and they look classy enough to wear to your families christmas party and casual enough that you don't upset your aunt by "overdoing it this year." I love these things!
Sleeves are tight
I really really want to live these as I recently bought both New navy and Stonewash colors but the sleeves are really really tight for my arms. It feels great and keeps me warm when it is cold outside but lets the wind through. I purchased M size but maybe I should've gotten a L for better blood circulation on my arms.
Hi Justin! Thanks for your feedback - we're sorry to hear those sleeves were too tight for you! If you'd like to return or exchange it for a larger size, you are welcome to do so [here](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html#searchterm=return). The exact garment measurements for the bicep width are as follows: Medium 9.25" / Large 9.87". This measurement is taken one inch down from the seam located at the armpit.
Better Sweater Jacket
This purchase provided my fourth Better Sweater -- 3 are full-zip sweaters and one a 1/4-zip pullover. I really enjoy these fleece sweaters in winter -- warm and with full zips are easy to regulate temperature when moving from outdoors to indoors. They remain looking nice longer than standard fleece, which tends to pill or wear quickly. Compared to... Read More Marmot, Columbia, and Mountain Hardwear fleece products that I own, these Patagonia Better Sweaters are more slim cut with slim arms (especially in the pullover). I wear a medium in all and find the Patagonia fit is comfortable but is slim.
Great Sweater. I want to wear it all the time!
I love the better sweater. I got my usual XL and it fits a little lose but looks good according to my wife. The large was a little too perfect fitting. The XL is a tad long on me, but I’m a short guy so that’s my problem. Shipping was bad and wasn’t Patagonia’s fault but the On Trac people were no help and my jacket came a week after it’s promise d... Read Moreate. Patagonia’s customer service was amazing and had a new jacket sent to me overnight. Can’t say enough about their customer service and great products.
A Patagonia Classic
For reference, I am 5' 11" 160 Lbs and wear a men's medium in everything Patagonia makes. The Better Sweater jacket is a Patagonia classic garment. On cold days, say 35 deg or so, I will layer my Better Sweater on top of a Fjord Flannel. This combination is perfect for running around town, errands to the grocery store, trips where th... Read Moreere are several stops in and out of the car. When the temperature rises, say to 45 deg and above, I will wear just a long or short sleeve t-shirt underneath. For me, the fit is perfect, not too tight nor too loose. Be advised, when your Better Sweater is new, it may feel a little tight. However, as you wear the jacket, the fleece will gradually pack down and the jacket will feel more relaxed in fit. Also, I prefer the heathered or mixed colourways(i.e. Nickel, Stonewash, Khaki) over the solids(Black, Navy, Green). The inevitable fabric piling that occurs over time is more pronounced, more obvious, on the solid colourways. Finally, I prefer this version(Better Sweater Jacket-full zip) over the 1/4 zip pullover because it is easier to put on, easier to layer over, and it has side hand-pockets.
This jacket is OK, but not all that impressive. I was expecting something either less bulky or warmer for the weight. For the price range, and fancy branding, I was actually expecting... a better sweater. It's not that. Obviously, you can buy wool and cashmere sweaters in the same price range, and they are warmer and comfier. As a jacket, bewa... Read Morere that it doesn't stand up to a little bit of wind. I have better sweaters, and I also have a better jacket. My use for this jacket will be an extra layer on very cold days (over a sweater, but under a coat) or just around the house. Don't get me wrong. It's fine. It's well-built and looks good. You'll probably wear it if you buy it, but it's being a bit overrated by other reviewers, and I would not recommend it, based on there being better options.
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Fit does not flatter
Am 6’ 195#. Broad shouldered- 44L suit jacket. The shoulders, chest and sleeves on the better sweater jacket are designed for folks with narrow shoulders, no chest, and skinny arms- or for people who like tight fitting clothes. So although I’d normally order an L, I went up to an XL to fit my upper body. The problem is the cut of this jacket is ver... Read Morey boxy—- so now there’s too much material at the waist. I’m shaped like a V and this jacket is designed for people shaped like a pear.
Hi Greg, we're sorry this was an odd fit for you. If you remain unsatisfied with it, please feel free to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) it back to us as soon as possible. We're also always happy to email you any item's measurements chart so you can feel more confident about your next purchase.
As good as a sweater can be. Extremely comfortable.. few points tho.. the internal lining for the hands and chest pocket does create another pocket for the inside.. the right side is fine, but the left side could be done better.. Sleeve is on the small side.. guys with big arms do need to take note. Only one thing to make this better.. thumb hole... Read Mores!
My favorite item is my Better Sweater!
I wear this daily in the winter and love it! But my new one does not fit like the old one. The new one has sleeves that are not comfortable if i wear a long sleeve shirt. I bought one last year and the same thing. I'm not sure what you use as a pattern but it is not realistic for the average guy. My arms are average and this is NOT comfortable... Read More. I am disappointed with your usual spot on designs and customer responsiveness.
Hi Fred. We're sorry to hear the fit change isn't up to your satisfaction. Our designs are constantly being revised, and customer's feedback is one of the contributing factors to these changes. We hope that we won't disappoint you in the future. Thanks for your review!
New Design of Men’s Better Sweater has failed
My favorite lightweight jacket changed. I have owned 3 Better Sweater Jackets/vests and absolutely love them. They are a staple of my wardrobe during the winter months. Although this new edition of the Better Sweater Jacket does not work for me. The sleeves are cut way to narrow. I do not have Pop-eye forearms by any means. I blindly ordered the ja... Read Morecket because it has always worked for me. Now I have to wrestle my arms through the sleeves. I truly hope this design gets changed quickly.
Hi Jason! Thank you for your feedback! We're very sorry to hear that the sleeves are too narrow for you. If you would like to return your Better Sweater, you are welcome to do so [here](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html#searchterm=return). In the meantime, I went ahead and passed your comments about the item revisions along to our design team for consideration.
The arms could be alittle
The arms could be alittle bit bigger. Not longer but roomier. I workout and have bulky biceps. Its feels too fitted. Also after one wash it shrinks. Maybe you can preshrink before selling them? Or just have another version for bulkier people. Not everybody has a slim model like figure.
Patagonia Better Seeater
I love the feel of this sweater but it balls up and looks ugly as sin . Shaved off pills several times ( 6 yrs old). My much older Pat. Fleece never pilled ! This one did almost immediately.
We're sorry to hear about the pilling issue you've been having with your Better Sweater. If you are not pleased with its performance, you are absolutely welcome to send it in to us for a [warranty returns evaluation](https://help.patagonia.com/s/article/Ironclad-Guarantee) under our Ironclad Guarantee.
Warm and reliable
I'm 5'10", 155lbs, and I bought the Small. It fits perfectly. Not something to layer over more than a thin single layer. If you want to wear it as more of a jacket, size up. I found it warmer than I expected, but not too thick or hot. Ideal as a mid-layer with coats/jackets or just a cozy top layer on those 50+ degree days.
Disappointed with price vs. material quality
Thinner material than expected. Doesn't stop our Chicago fall season wind. Fits tight with even tighter armpits. Will return it.
Hi Jeffery, thanks for taking the time to write us a review. We're really sorry to hear about the disappointment with the jacket. Feedback like this is crucial to improving products for future seasons so it's much appreciated!
Surprised comfort and warmth
I buy a lot of TNF and This was my first Patagonia purchase. My sons (19, 21) told me my jacket was cool. That was a first. The sweater jacket is very warm without bulk. The quality of the workmanship is a bit more (IMO) than TNF. The sleeves are snug. Compared to my other jackets but not to the annoying point. Would I buy this again and would I re... Read Morecommend this to a friend ... yes. Without hesitation. Pleasantly surprised with my online purchase. I wear it daily and on colder days I wear it as a base layer.
Best bet for the tropics
This is a beautiful looking - and fitting - piece of gear which has almost no insulating value whatsoever. It’s not just that it’s porous to the wind, like many pile garments - it’s just not warm. Someone else compared its warmth to that of a flannel shirt. I would say that would be a pretty skimpy flannel shirt. Too bad, because the design is grea... Read Moret.
Hi Steven, thanks for taking the time to write us a review! We're sorry to hear about the disappointment with the jacket. Your satisfaction is always guaranteed so you're welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html).
Can’t go wrong with better sweaters. They’ve been proven. Sleeves are a bit slimmer in this model than some of my other Patagonia gear like the quilted snap sweater. I ordered a small and the length is a tad bit short (hits about mid pocket on my pants, ideally I’d like it to hit the bottom of the pocket). Small issues, otherwise I love it.
Not better - BEST sweater!
After having owned and loved this product for years, I have recently introduced my husband to it. He is SOLD! This is the perfect multi season sweater/jacket. Very comfortable, looks nice, washes well. Works well as a layer. Goes from skiing to the office. My husband is 6’4” with very long arms. Has a hard time finding brands with long enough sleev... Read Morees and not too wide and short in the body. Patagonia XL fits him perfectly! This is the second one of these we’ve bought - he wanted a second color!
Fits and looks great!
I bought this jacket for my husband and it fits and looks great. He’s a pretty fit guy 6’ tall, 205 lbs., broad shoulders and slim waist at 32”. I bought him a Large. He won’t be able to fit a very heavy sweater under the jacket, but a shirt or light sweater will be fine. I have one of these jackets in a women’s and I love it and I think he will to... Read Moreo!